In these two Hardfire programs, Richard Gage, AIA, San Francisco Bay area architect, founder of Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth, debates Mark Roberts on the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on September 11, 2001. John Clifton, past chair of the Libertarian Party of New York, hosts. Richard Gage argues that airplanes and fires alone could not have brought down the buildings, and presents extensive visual evidence supporting his view. Mark Roberts supports the "official" government explanation and refutes Richard's arguments.
B**2
Facts, facts, and more facts
It becomes undeniable by the end of the film to not have speculation into what truly was behind the september 11th attacks. Top experts and family members of those lost on that day speak out, Laying out a case that will have anyone watching skeptical of the official report.
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Americans owe Richard Gage an eternal debt of gratitude for his courageous work
It is now over 11 years since the greatest crime of the 21st century was perpetrated upon the American people. The fact that anyone who questions the "Official Big Lie of 9/11" is branded as unstable or worse a terrorist is outrageous and anti-American. Then again, we live in a country where 99% of the American voting public aren't even aware that Willard is Willard Mitt Romney's first name. Also, most Americans do not realize that Al Gore would have won the 2000 Florida recount if not for the Republican conflicted United States Supreme Court blocking that recount.Of course, American history is truly a timeline of successive "Official Big Lies" starting with celebrating Christopher Columbus discovering the Western Hemisphere in 1492 and leaving out the inconvenient truth that him and the Europeans that followed in his footsteps committed genocide against the native inhabitants of the Western Hemisphere and yet we call ourselves "civilized."I walked through the North Tower of the World Trade Center at 8:30am on September 11, 2001 only 15 minutes before the first plane crashed into the WTC Towers. I don't appreciate almost being collateral damage that day. My immediate reaction after the second plane hit was that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for those planes since there was to be a session at the UN concerning Palestine that week and Osama Bin Laden was accused of the recent attack against the USS Cole in Yemen. My second thought was where the heck was the United States Air Force? It was a 50 degree Fahrenheit day with not a cloud in the sky for 50 miles around. My third thought after the second plane hit was to get as far away and as quickly away from the burning WTC Towers as possible. While my fellow NYers oohed and ahhed looking up at the burning towers, I headed for 33rd St PATH train at Christopher St. I caught the last PATH train out of NYC that day. On-board were two Morgan Stanley stockbrokers from the 86th floor of WTC 1. They were told by the WTC fire warden to stay at their desks since there was no danger. They ignored the fire warden and walked down 86 flights of stairs and caught the PATH train to NJ. By the time the PATH train reached Jersey City's Journal Square, the South Tower had been imploded. The North Tower soon followed in billowing clouds of dust.Everything in Richard Gage's documentary film is consistent with my personal experiences. For weeks following the WTC implosions, I left my office with my eyes blood-shot from the irritation of the contaminants in the air. This is consistent with the extremely high levels of toxic fine particles distributed by the implosions of the WTC 1, 2 and 7. A few weeks later, one evening, there was a man dressed in a beige trench coat and briefcase on the PATH train who claimed to be an architect and who claimed that the WTC towers collapsed because the weight bearing columns were at the outer walls of the buildings and the buildings collapsed upon themselves due to fire. The gentleman clearly was misrepresenting the truth. Why was he riding on the PATH train anyway? One noticed that the NYC Police removed all the benches in the NYC PATH stations. One could conclude that benches offered a respite only to terrorists and no one else.You don't have to be an architect or an engineer to understand the simple fact as to why the "Official Big Lie of 9/11" is false. The best analogy I can think of is cooking on a gas stove. The gas stove has gratings. Those gratings are made of cast iron. If we are to believe the "Official Big Lie of 9/11" that the jet fuel from the air planes destroyed WTC 1 & 2 and that office fires destroyed WTC 7, then why doesn't cast iron gratings on a gas stove melt from the heat, as well? The simple answer is that the jet fuel fires at WTC 1 and 2 never reached above 600 degrees Fahrenheit and the office fires in WTC 7 likewise did not reach higher than 600 degrees Fahrenheit, either. Iron or steel softens and melts above 2800 degrees Fahrenheit. The gas stove iron gratings will outlast any gas stove and the steel I-beams in the WTC Towers would have outlasted the WTC Towers had they not be cut and removed by demolition.Richard Gage doesn't suggest who committed this crime. That is why Richard Gage recommends that a new Official 9/11 Investigation be conducted with subpoena powers. New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN - [...] ) asked for a ballot initiative in 2009 for such an investigation. The NY Courts blocked the ballot initiative from becoming effective. We are still waiting for a real investigation of 9/11.
M**E
Rating this is irrelevant
One constant theme: experts in the pack back away, far away, in fear of just about anything. They back away, but who didn't on that day? The very people that deserve justice and a true accounting; anyone in that city dependent on any service including the air they breathe. This was simply an engineering treatise. Engineering speaks for itself rather plainly was the point of the film. There is nothing radical about that, and the study was not the work of any ideologue. If you hated what happened that day, then you rightfully care about how.
A**E
Too Short To Be Informative
I was hoping for more facts and an examination of the evidence. The host had only a short time allocated for the topic and half of that went to each side (supporting the belief that 9/11 did not happen the way it was depicted by the government versus the side that said "nonsense, of course it did"). Because of the short amount of time, the new information that explained what really happened was not supported by pictures, documents, and quotes. On the other hand, the gentleman that defended the mainstream version (that the twin towers really did collapse because of the planes) had nothing to support him ...not even verbal. All he said was that it didn't happen the way AE911 said. Useless conversation. All I could use this for was to explain to my kid that there was debate over what actually took place.
K**T
Mark Roberts Has a Huge Ego
Perhaps the worst interview I've ever seen. Mark Roberts reminds me of that kid on the playground who sticks his fingers in his ears, shuts his eyes and says: "LA LA LA LA LA" so he doesn't have to hear anyone's opinion but his own. I'm truly surprised that Richard Gage returned for the second part of this debate. He could hardly finish a sentence without being interrupted. Bottom line: I believe every word Richard Gage has ever researched about the truth of 9-11. I think Mark Roberts is full of one thing: HIMSELF!
B**T
"Truth" Depends on Who You Edit Out"
So so, typical "EVERYONE DID IT" with cynical narrative manipulated with pseudo science and dubious, out-of-context quotes from everybody and anybody who lives in Manhattan. Granted, the World Trade attack was a VERY DARK DAY for our country, but let's not compound the situation by claiming it actually was one big sabotage conspiracy and kinetic art performance piece --- which assumes that our government is so screwed up that we are willing to recruit a bunch of Al Qaeda double agents (or actors) to blow themselves up (along with thousands of innocents), than claim the falling buildings were just a demolition exercise pulled off by....THEM! Additionally, they went so far as to make two hijacked passenger jets just disappear (Poof!) and substitute CRUSE missiles. This is all too fantastic and simplified.
E**N
Worst interviewer I've ever seen
Worst interviewer I've ever seen on TV.Boring show, many other doc's on subject are better.Watch "the truth and lies of 9-11" and " 9-11 explosive evidence"(both very good).
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