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T**N
Medium performance climbing shoe for a decent price.
I'll talk about the fit first. I have rather wide feet, and in running shoes I wear a US size 12 with a 4E width. Based on my previous experience with rental climbing shoes (Evolv brand if it matters) I simply got the next size up from my running shoes. The Drifters fit pretty well (albeit not perfectly, more on that later), not too tight but not too loose. A general rule of thumb with climbing shoes is: Are your toes comfortable? If yes, your climbing shoes are too big. Are your toes/feet painful? If yes, your shoes are too small. Are your feet mildly uncomfortable, but without pinching or pain? You've got the right sized shoe.Comfort level wise, they're okay. The leather in the uppers allows the shoe to mould itself to the user's foot over time. No pokey interior stitching to annoy, and the leather upper is left unlined. Over time, the leather got a good stretch to it, making the fit a little better, and the comfort much improved. You're not gonna want to wear them all day, but you can easily keep them on between sends or while belaying.On to what made them less than perfect! I mentioned earlier that I have wide feet. While the toe box and length of the shoe worked well for me, the balls of my feet (the widest part) slightly overhangs the sole of the shoe. Same with my heels. The leather uppers can stretch to fit across the foot, but the hard rubber sole can't. Also, the heel pocket isn't all that deep, and the overall shape is super flat. They do okay for edging (until the edge wears off to a nice gentle round...) but every time I wanted to heel hook I found myself toe-ing at the holds instead. Admittedly that may be due to a certain lack of skill on my part... Oh! Again it could be my questionable technique, but I didn't like these for slab climbing. The rubber seemed to go from sticky to slick relatively quickly, maybe a week or two. The rubber on the soles and along the edge seemed to wear out pretty quick, I've used these for maybe 4-6 months and already the edges on both shoes have rounded off (but then I go bouldering 2x a day 4-5 days a week so they might last longer for you).Performance while climbing is fair. I've sent boulders as hard as V3 while wearing them. As mentioned, they're a bit slick for smooth slabs, and the lack of aggressive shape makes the heel hook harder to use well. Edging is actually pretty good, smears are so-so, the toe is functional. While I haven't sent V4 or V5 (yet!), I never felt like it was the shoes alone which held me back.Conclusion: I'd say these are a decent beginner shoe. They'll take you from V0-3 with ease, and can likely be stretched to the V4 and V5 problem sets by a skilled climber. They are fairly comfortable to wear and use, and the price you pay is more than worth the shoe you get. For intermediate climbers progressing past the V3 mark, I'd humbly suggest investing in a more aggressively shaped shoe that will get you better smearing, edging, and hooking. For advanced climbers... you know better than this. Go get some Evolv Shamans and crush V12s and leave us climbing peasants to our V3s and flat shoes.
I**?
Best-fitting shoes I've tried, at a very nice price; try these first!
I've been climbing for over twenty years now, both indoors and out, mainly vertical, some overhung stuff, mainly 10's and 11's lately. I guess I'm a casual fitness climber, not a super hardcore competitive type.I had an old version of this same shoe, used it for everything, and absolutely loved it. But finally, my old ones wore out. I used to work at a gear store, have tried most everything over the years, and I know a thing or two about climbing shoes and how they are supposed to fit.In my quest for a new shoe, I tried every single shoe at my local gym, then every shoe at REI, most of which were over $150. Nothing fit. I put my old shoes back on, and didn't want to take them off. I was ready to spend any amount to get a good pair of shoes. I don't know what's going on with shoe design lately, but half of what I tried on was simply not wearable. I started thinking about re-soling my old ones, but the leather's going on top because I sometimes drag the tops of my feet, so that wasn't an option... I started getting desperate, climbing in an ancient pair of lace-ups...Finally, I ordered a pair of these. Heaven. A painful sort of heaven, but heaven. I wear a 9.5 or a 10 (US) in street shoes, sometimes a 10.5. I got this shoe in a 9.5, like my old ones. Yes, they are quite tight out of the box, and my toes knuckle pretty sharply. It hurts a bit to walk around the house in them. That's how climbing shoes fit. If they're not just a bit painful at first, they're too loose. But these are painful in exactly the right way; they compress the foot all over, and make contact absolutely everywhere. There are no pressure points or loose spots, just perfection, a complete suction fit. I can keep them on for about twenty minutes before it gets unbearable, which is about right for new shoes. They'll stretch a bit, and be good for an hour, later on.The price is just a bonus; I was ready to spend $200 if I had to. Instead, I bought shoes and a new harness for $100. Thanks, Mad Rock! Also, thanks for making these black and grey. Some of us lived through the neon '80's, and have no desire to revisit that palette...I haven't even taken them to the gym yet, and I'm already really happy. These have pointier toes than my old ones; looking forward to how they work. But it's all about the fit... Check these out first, is my advice. At the price, and especially with free returns, it's literally impossible to go wrong.[Edit to add: After a few months at the gym, these have relaxed, a little. They're still a bit tighter, pointier, and more performance oriented than my old ones, and that's fine. I do have to take them off every half hour or so. Pretty ideal, I'd say. Give these a try.]
J**N
Viel zu klein und schlecht verarbeitet.
Obwohl ich einen Schuh der gleichen Größe schon einmal getragen und die bestellte Schuhgröße zwei ganze Schuhgrößen größer ist als meine reguläre, ist der Schuh viel zu klein. Dabei geht es nicht um ein paar Millimeter, sondern meine Zehen sind darin komplett eingeknickt.Dazu kommt noch, dass die Verarbeitung sehr schlecht ist. Man sieht überall Grünen Kleber herauskommen und sie sehen aus, als wären sie schon getragen worden.Ich werde sie direkt wieder zurücksenden.
S**E
The other shoe was fine. Made it to painful to use the shoe
Helped with climbing but the metal solid part at the toe on one foot was pushed in. The other shoe was fine. Made it to painful to use the shoe.Expected the product to fit snug and be uncomfortable but this was too much pain.
E**R
Passt sehr gut für breite Vorderfüße
Ich bin begeistert von der Passform. Zwar verfechte ich keine super engen Kletterschuhe aber stundenlang anhaben muss ich sie auch nicht können. Optik und Verarbeitung sind Top. Durch die breite Form an der Spitze komme auch ich mit den Schuhen klar.Ich trage normal 43, habe diese Schuhe in 43 bestellt und sie passen! Wobei passen hier meint: Sie sitzen sehr eng, drücken durchaus und taugen nicht besonders zum normalen Gehen. Aber sie sind ideal zum Klettern, geben guten Halt und ein gutes Trittgefühl. Durch die Klettverschlüsse kann man seinen Füßen zwischen den Routen unproblematisch Verschnaufpausen gönnen.Ach ja, angeblich weiten sie sich ja nicht, über diesen Punkt freue ich mich besonders :)
G**Y
Seems like good shoe, but fit REALLY small.
I wear a size 12 shoe. I wear a size 46 EU bike shoe.So, I ordered these in a 12.5 (EU 46.5) Mad Rock climbing shoe. The 12.5 fits more like an 11. I am an experienced climber, and like a tight fitting shoe, but I cannot even wear the 12.5. Not very impressed that these are so tiny and have ended up being useless to me.
J**D
gut
Die Größe ist kleiner als normale Größe. Ich nehme normal Größe in 40. Aber über diese Kletterschuhe muss ich 42 nehmen. Der Grip ist ziemlich groß. Überhaupt ist gut !
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