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T**L
Best shirt stay (comparison with four-piece stays)
I've been using military-style (four-piece) shirt stays that work reasonably well. However, I decided to give these a shot even though they are more than twice as expensive. In short: worth it.Pros:Better fasteners. These fasteners are the same basic design as the military-style, but they seem easier to attach and detach. Yet, once on they hold really well. Some reviewers advocate the alligator clips. Don't do it. They are bulky and do not hold well. Once you get the hang of these, they aren't difficult to use.More comfortable straps. The military-style models have elastic straps that occasionally catch and pull leg hairs. No such problem here.Quicker to get on. I didn't think these would be that much quicker, but they really are for a couple of reasons. First, the fasteners are easier to fasten. Second, the Y-design means only one fastener on each sock instead of two. The socks are definitely more difficult since you can put the shirt end on before you get dressed (see below).Even tension. Because of the Y-design, there is even pressure on the front and back of the shirt. With the four-piece military-style, it's hard to get equal pressure, which can be annoying during the day.Cons:Price. These are more than twice as much as the military-style models. However, in the end, I think it's worth it for the reasons noted above.Notes:Length. Not an issue for me, but as some reviewers have noted, tall guys with short shirttails and socks may run out of strap length. I'm 5'9" and have used these with mid-calf socks and casual shirts with shorter tails. In that situation, I've had maybe 3 inches of length left. I'd say guys over 6 feet will be ok with normal dress shirts and over-the-calf dress socks, but perhaps not shorter shirts/socks.Tension Points. Because of the Y-design, these naturally attach to the shirttail more toward the side seam than the front/back. I like that location because it keeps the shirt tucked without excessive tension in the front. In other words, the shirt still looks natural in the front rather than overly tight. But some guys may prefer more tension in the front/back rather than toward the sides. These may not work as well for you.Visibility. These are invisible under regular or tailored/slim trousers. But if you wear thin, skin-tight, skinny trousers, they are going to show. That is true of any product, however, not just this one. That said, I think these are about as invisible as a product of this type could be.Socks. These are designed to work with dress socks. I've used them with thin and medium thickness socks with no problem. They aren't designed to work with thick socks.Notes on How to Wear:I think many of the problems people have with these and other shirt stays is that they don't wear them correctly, and more specifically, too tight. If you wear them too tight, they will be uncomfortable and prone to sliding off your shirt or socks. Here's how to wear them correctly.1. Attach the shirt ends to the shirt before you put it on.2. Adjust the clips as loose as they will go.3. Put on your socks and shirt.4. Attach the sock end to your sock about halfway between the outside of your calf and your shin. If your shin is 12 o'clock, attach at about 1030 on your left and 230 on your right. This will help the straps lay closer to your leg and remain less visible.5. Adjust one strap up a bit, then stand up and check for tension. Repeat until the tension is right, then adjust the other side to the same length. You will know the tension is correct when you stand tall and the straps appear and feel tight but you feel little or no pressure on your shoulders.
B**T
Great Product, great gift for those who need to keep shirts tucked, but just can't seem to. Works best with dress socks.
Very helpful for keeping your shirt tucked. I recommend highly for guys with muscular legs and hips like me because when we wear tucked shirts, they often come untucked because of the shifting of the shirt fabric. These are comfortable to wear, minimal rubbing on the legs. The securing mechanism is great, in normal movement, it does not come undone; just don't run any Marathons with this. The bathroom situation is a little annoying at first because when you do a #2, you have to detach it from your socks, but once you wear this enough, you get used to it, and you realize that it really isn't that bad because you're going to have a perfectly tucked shirt. I saw this product in a Teaching Men's Fashion video, and the way he pitched it, I do not disagree with at all. I love this product and I definitely recommend to any man whose shirts just can't stay tucked, or for a man whose shirts go untucked because of movement that is required by their job. This product is what's called a "shirt-stay", and is a staple of military uniforms. This makes complete sense now because those in the military need to look proper while they are constantly moving. They cannot stop and tuck in their shirt every 5 minutes, so they use a shirt stay and believe me, IT WORKS WONDERS. I love this product, and it would be a great gift idea for a man or woman in your life who needs to keep their shirt tucked, but just cannot seem to keep it that way.
S**R
They work well, and are a must-have, but build quality needs to improve
There are pros and cons to these. If you dont want to read the full review, I understand. There's a Too Long; Didn't Read version at the end you're welcome to skip down to.First the Cons:I'm a bigger guy, and at work, I find my shirt comes out of my trousers way too often (without the garters at least.)I bought a black set directly from the KK & Jay website a while back, and I *loved* them... for about 2 months. The clips that grab your sock at the bottom, and your shirt at the top are a well-engineered, functioning design that I'm quite pleased with. The execution on build wasn't the best, though. The clips are very thin and flimsy, and aren't put together as well as they could be. First set lasted about a month and a half to 2 months of daily use, lots of standing and moving around, the second set is about 2 months in and seems to be holding up OK. Bending a little again but more than useable. I mean I've bought $9 walmart pants suspenders that have held up better than these. 5 years of use on those bad boys.Now the Pros:The other materials are very nice and high quality. The leather on the y-shaped split is a nice touch. The leather seems to be real leather and if it's not, its a very nice imitation. The leather keeps the Y shaped split from deforming and works very well. It's soft and supple but strong. I was worried when I nought them the rough-looking material in the picture would chafe my leg. Could not be farther from the truth. They are comfortable to wear, and even though it looks like it in the picture, the material in the garters themselves seems to be high quality and does not feel abrasive at all. If they ever come into contact with my skin throughout the day I'm unaware of it. The buckles at the center hold well, do not move, and are well made. Nice addition. Despite the problems with them, they work as advertised, they do their job well, and they don't come undone for anything which I really like. Like I said, although they could use better materials in the construction of the clips at the end, they are very well engineered and well thought out. They are a must have if you wear a dress shirt and slacks to work every day. I think if the company were to use a thicker or sturdier wire to build the clip, the problem would be solved. And/or maybe a touch of solder where the 2 sections of the clip join because that's where they like to come apart.TL:DR (Too Long; Didn't Read): After 2 pairs, there is 1 flaw that exists in both sets. The clips at the end wear quickly if you use them every day, but other than that they're well made. Highly recommend. Must have. The men's fashion accessory you never knew you needed. Not wanted, needed. After 2 sets, I consider them a necessity.
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